i been reading this website for the first time and find the comments very interesting iam using my pals pc as i only have ps2 i have owend all pes games, and marsterd all of them. when game comes out i put stars right up to highest level, start on marster league mode, my team is vorlander, huylens, chellini, barota, castello, valeny, ximenez, maranda, stremer, eddingson, kelson. i get promoted every time and win div2 cup, then go on to win div1 and cup, following season win champions league, and all other compertions. sometimes i do this winning every game. but you can draw or loose games as true gamers would know this, because you can get ripped off by dodgey ref decisons. final thoughts i have never met anyone as good as myself if you fancy your chances reply, and you may take away my tital the best in the world at pro evo 4. here are some of my past results safc 6 nufc 0 . safc 8 barcelona 0 . but my record is 14-0 against the gunners, on ten min game. now you all know who the best is amen!!!!!!